The code detecting whether the ICV is fragmented was overly
complex and limited the number of fragments an ICV may be
comprised of with no reason in the current code, casuing the
new testmgr tests to fail.
This patch removes this legacy limitation and greatly simplifies
the code.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
When we are given a 0 sized cryptlen and assoclen in
a scatterlist with two entries we were falsely trying to
create a zero length MLLI table, causing the HW to choke.
Don't try to copy a zero sized MLLI table.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
We did not zero out the internal struct before use causing problem
in some rare error code paths.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
This sacrificial copyright header update is offered to the legal department
as atonement for any changes made in this driver files in the course of
the current year which have not been duly recorded as such.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Move to use the std api sg_nents_for_len() when we do not in fact
require the extra information about the number of bytes in the last
entry provided by the in-driver variant cc_get_sgl_nents().
This also resolves a Coverity warning cause by us not using
the output value.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Move some remaining device data allocation to the safer devm_*
interface.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Fix a memory leak on the error path of IV generation code.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v4.19+
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Fix a typo in debugfs interface error path which can result in a
panic following a memory allocation failure.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
We were handling chained scattergather lists with specialized code
needlessly as the regular sg APIs handle them just fine. The code
handling this also had an (unused) code path with a use-before-init
error, flagged by Coverity.
Remove all special handling of chained sg and leave their handling
to the regular sg APIs.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v4.19+
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use proper hash callback completion API instead of open coding it.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
We were doing backlog notification callbacks via a cipher/hash/aead
request structure cast to the base structure, which may or may not
work based on how the structure is laid in memory and is not safe.
Fix it by delegating the backlog notification to the appropriate
internal callbacks which are type aware.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org # v4.19+
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The new HW uses a new standard product and component ID registers
replacing the old ad-hoc version and signature gister schemes.
Update the driver to support the new HW ID registers.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
We were computing the next IV in software instead of reading it from HW
on the premise that this can be quicker due to the small size of IVs but
this proved to be much more hassle and bug ridden than expected.
Move to reading the next IV as computed by the HW.
This fixes a number of issue with next IV being wrong for OFB, CTS-CBC
and probably most of the other ciphers as well.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Adapt the CPP descriptor to new HW interface.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add the registration for the SM4 based policy protected keys ciphers.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add the missing logic to set usage policy protections for keys.
This enables key policy protection for AES.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add the logic needed to track and report CPP operation rejection.
The new logic will be used by the CPP feature introduced later.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add support for the Security Disabled mode under which only
pure cryptographic functionality is enabled and protected keys
services are unavailable.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Refactor to move the descriptor copying the MLLI line to SRAM
to before the key loading descriptor in preparation to the
introduction of CPP later on.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Refactor the descriptor setup code in order to move the key loading
descriptor to one before last position. This has no effect on current
functionality but is needed for later support of Content Protection
Policy keys.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Mark sm4 and missing aes using protected keys which are indetical to
same algs with no HW protected keys as tested.
Signed-off-by: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
sun4i-ss does not handle requests when length are not a multiple of
blocksize.
This patch adds a fallback for that case.
Fixes: 6298e94821 ("crypto: sunxi-ss - Add Allwinner Security System crypto accelerator")
Signed-off-by: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
When nbytes < 4, end is wronlgy set to a negative value which, due to
uint, is then interpreted to a large value leading to a deadlock in the
following code.
This patch fix this problem.
Fixes: 6298e94821 ("crypto: sunxi-ss - Add Allwinner Security System crypto accelerator")
Signed-off-by: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
ECB algos does not need IV.
Fixes: 6298e94821 ("crypto: sunxi-ss - Add Allwinner Security System crypto accelerator")
Signed-off-by: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
This patch remove the test against areq->info since sun4i-ss could work
without it (ECB).
Fixes: 6298e94821 ("crypto: sunxi-ss - Add Allwinner Security System crypto accelerator")
Signed-off-by: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
This patch fixes the NITROX-V family part name format. The fix includes
ZIP core performance (feature option) in the part name to differentiate
various HW devices. The complete HW part name format is mentioned below
Part name: CNN55<core option>-<freq>BG676-<feature option>-<rev>
Signed-off-by: Nagadheeraj Rottela <rnagadheeraj@marvell.com>
Reviewed-by: Srikanth Jampala <jsrikanth@marvell.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
GCM detection logic has to change for two reasons:
-some CAAM instantiations with Era < 10, even though they have AES LP,
they now support GCM mode
-Era 10 upwards, there is a dedicated bit in AESA_VERSION[AESA_MISC]
field for GCM support
For Era 9 and earlier, all AES accelerator versions support GCM,
except for AES LP (CHAVID_LS[AESVID]=3) with revision CRNR[AESRN] < 8.
For Era 10 and later, bit 9 of the AESA_VERSION register should be used
to detect GCM support in AES accelerator.
Note: caam/qi and caam/qi2 are drivers for QI (Queue Interface), which
is used in DPAA-based SoCs; for now, we rely on CAAM having an AES HP
and this AES accelerator having support for GCM.
Signed-off-by: Horia Geantă <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
Reviewed-by: Iuliana Prodan <iuliana.prodan@nxp.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
There is a spelling mistake in an error message in the qi_error_list
array. Fix this.
Signed-off-by: Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>
Reviewed-by: Mukesh Ojha <mojha@codeaurora.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The flags field in 'struct shash_desc' never actually does anything.
The only ostensibly supported flag is CRYPTO_TFM_REQ_MAY_SLEEP.
However, no shash algorithm ever sleeps, making this flag a no-op.
With this being the case, inevitably some users who can't sleep wrongly
pass MAY_SLEEP. These would all need to be fixed if any shash algorithm
actually started sleeping. For example, the shash_ahash_*() functions,
which wrap a shash algorithm with the ahash API, pass through MAY_SLEEP
from the ahash API to the shash API. However, the shash functions are
called under kmap_atomic(), so actually they're assumed to never sleep.
Even if it turns out that some users do need preemption points while
hashing large buffers, we could easily provide a helper function
crypto_shash_update_large() which divides the data into smaller chunks
and calls crypto_shash_update() and cond_resched() for each chunk. It's
not necessary to have a flag in 'struct shash_desc', nor is it necessary
to make individual shash algorithms aware of this at all.
Therefore, remove shash_desc::flags, and document that the
crypto_shash_*() functions can be called from any context.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The nx driver uses the MAY_SLEEP flag in shash_desc::flags as an
indicator to not retry sending the operation to the hardware as many
times before returning -EBUSY. This is bogus because (1) that's not
what the MAY_SLEEP flag is for, and (2) the shash API doesn't allow
failing if the hardware is busy anyway.
For now, just make it always retry the larger number of times. This
doesn't actually fix this driver, but it at least makes it not use the
shash_desc::flags field anymore. Then this field can be removed, as no
other drivers use it.
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The crypto_yield() in shash_ahash_digest() occurs after the entire
digest operation already happened, so there's no real point. Remove it.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
CCM instances can be created by either the "ccm" template, which only
allows choosing the block cipher, e.g. "ccm(aes)"; or by "ccm_base",
which allows choosing the ctr and cbcmac implementations, e.g.
"ccm_base(ctr(aes-generic),cbcmac(aes-generic))".
However, a "ccm_base" instance prevents a "ccm" instance from being
registered using the same implementations. Nor will the instance be
found by lookups of "ccm". This can be used as a denial of service.
Moreover, "ccm_base" instances are never tested by the crypto
self-tests, even if there are compatible "ccm" tests.
The root cause of these problems is that instances of the two templates
use different cra_names. Therefore, fix these problems by making
"ccm_base" instances set the same cra_name as "ccm" instances, e.g.
"ccm(aes)" instead of "ccm_base(ctr(aes-generic),cbcmac(aes-generic))".
This requires extracting the block cipher name from the name of the ctr
and cbcmac algorithms. It also requires starting to verify that the
algorithms are really ctr and cbcmac using the same block cipher, not
something else entirely. But it would be bizarre if anyone were
actually using non-ccm-compatible algorithms with ccm_base, so this
shouldn't break anyone in practice.
Fixes: 4a49b499df ("[CRYPTO] ccm: Added CCM mode")
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
GCM instances can be created by either the "gcm" template, which only
allows choosing the block cipher, e.g. "gcm(aes)"; or by "gcm_base",
which allows choosing the ctr and ghash implementations, e.g.
"gcm_base(ctr(aes-generic),ghash-generic)".
However, a "gcm_base" instance prevents a "gcm" instance from being
registered using the same implementations. Nor will the instance be
found by lookups of "gcm". This can be used as a denial of service.
Moreover, "gcm_base" instances are never tested by the crypto
self-tests, even if there are compatible "gcm" tests.
The root cause of these problems is that instances of the two templates
use different cra_names. Therefore, fix these problems by making
"gcm_base" instances set the same cra_name as "gcm" instances, e.g.
"gcm(aes)" instead of "gcm_base(ctr(aes-generic),ghash-generic)".
This requires extracting the block cipher name from the name of the ctr
algorithm. It also requires starting to verify that the algorithms are
really ctr and ghash, not something else entirely. But it would be
bizarre if anyone were actually using non-gcm-compatible algorithms with
gcm_base, so this shouldn't break anyone in practice.
Fixes: d00aa19b50 ("[CRYPTO] gcm: Allow block cipher parameter")
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
shash_ahash_digest(), which is the ->digest() method for ahash tfms that
use an shash algorithm, has an optimization where crypto_shash_digest()
is called if the data is in a single page. But an off-by-one error
prevented this path from being taken unless the user happened to provide
extra data in the scatterlist. Fix it.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Replace all calls to in_interrupt() in the PowerPC crypto code with
!crypto_simd_usable(). This causes the crypto self-tests to test the
no-SIMD code paths when CONFIG_CRYPTO_MANAGER_EXTRA_TESTS=y.
The p8_ghash algorithm is currently failing and needs to be fixed, as it
produces the wrong digest when no-SIMD updates are mixed with SIMD ones.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The cavium crypto driver adds 'sizeof(struct ablkcipher_request)' to its
request size because "the cryptd daemon uses this memory for request_ctx
information". This is incorrect and unnecessary; cryptd doesn't require
wrapped algorithms to reserve extra request space. So remove this.
Also remove the unneeded memset() of the tfm context to 0.
It's already zeroed on allocation.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Remove cryptd_alloc_ablkcipher() and the ability of cryptd to create
algorithms with the deprecated "ablkcipher" type.
This has been unused since commit 0e145b477d ("crypto: ablk_helper -
remove ablk_helper"). Instead, cryptd_alloc_skcipher() is used.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
In commit 71052dcf4b ("crypto: scompress - Use per-CPU struct instead
multiple variables") I accidentally initialized multiple times the memory on a
random CPU. I should have initialize the memory on every CPU like it has
been done earlier. I didn't notice this because the scheduler didn't
move the task to another CPU.
Guenter managed to do that and the code crashed as expected.
Allocate / free per-CPU memory on each CPU.
Fixes: 71052dcf4b ("crypto: scompress - Use per-CPU struct instead multiple variables")
Reported-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Tested-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
The Kernel Crypto API request output the next IV data to
IV buffer for CBC implementation. So the last block data of
ciphertext should be copid into assigned IV buffer.
Reported-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Fixes: 433cd2c617 ("crypto: rockchip - add crypto driver for rk3288")
Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> # v4.5+
Signed-off-by: Zhang Zhijie <zhangzj@rock-chips.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Use subsys_initcall for registration of all templates and generic
algorithm implementations, rather than module_init. Then change
cryptomgr to use arch_initcall, to place it before the subsys_initcalls.
This is needed so that when both a generic and optimized implementation
of an algorithm are built into the kernel (not loadable modules), the
generic implementation is registered before the optimized one.
Otherwise, the self-tests for the optimized implementation are unable to
allocate the generic implementation for the new comparison fuzz tests.
Note that on arm, a side effect of this change is that self-tests for
generic implementations may run before the unaligned access handler has
been installed. So, unaligned accesses will crash the kernel. This is
arguably a good thing as it makes it easier to detect that type of bug.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
When the extra crypto self-tests are enabled, test each AEAD algorithm
against its generic implementation when one is available. This
involves: checking the algorithm properties for consistency, then
randomly generating test vectors using the generic implementation and
running them against the implementation under test. Both good and bad
inputs are tested.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
When the extra crypto self-tests are enabled, test each skcipher
algorithm against its generic implementation when one is available.
This involves: checking the algorithm properties for consistency, then
randomly generating test vectors using the generic implementation and
running them against the implementation under test. Both good and bad
inputs are tested.
This has already detected a bug in the skcipher_walk API, a bug in the
LRW template, and an inconsistency in the cts implementations.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
When the extra crypto self-tests are enabled, test each hash algorithm
against its generic implementation when one is available. This
involves: checking the algorithm properties for consistency, then
randomly generating test vectors using the generic implementation and
running them against the implementation under test. Both good and bad
inputs are tested.
This has already detected a bug in the x86 implementation of poly1305,
bugs in crct10dif, and an inconsistency in cbcmac.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add some helper functions in preparation for fuzz testing algorithms
against their generic implementation.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
In preparation for fuzz testing algorithms against their generic
implementation, make error messages in testmgr identify test vectors by
name rather than index. Built-in test vectors are simply "named" by
their index in testmgr.h, as before. But (in later patches) generated
test vectors will be given more descriptive names to help developers
debug problems detected with them.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Update testmgr to support testing for specific errors from setkey() and
digest() for hashes; setkey() and encrypt()/decrypt() for skciphers and
ciphers; and setkey(), setauthsize(), and encrypt()/decrypt() for AEADs.
This is useful because algorithms usually restrict the lengths or format
of the message, key, and/or authentication tag in some way. And bad
inputs should be tested too, not just good inputs.
As part of this change, remove the ambiguously-named 'fail' flag and
replace it with 'setkey_error = -EINVAL' for the only test vector that
used it -- the DES weak key test vector. Note that this tightens the
test to require -EINVAL rather than any error code, but AFAICS this
won't cause any test failure.
Other than that, these new fields aren't set on any test vectors yet.
Later patches will do so.
Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Allow to use EC-RDSA signatures for IMA by determining signature type by
the hash algorithm name. This works good for EC-RDSA since Streebog and
EC-RDSA should always be used together.
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org>
Reviewed-by: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add testmgr test vectors for EC-RDSA algorithm for every of five
supported parameters (curves). Because there are no officially published
test vectors for the curves, the vectors are generated by gost-engine.
Signed-off-by: Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Add Elliptic Curve Russian Digital Signature Algorithm (GOST R
34.10-2012, RFC 7091, ISO/IEC 14888-3) is one of the Russian (and since
2018 the CIS countries) cryptographic standard algorithms (called GOST
algorithms). Only signature verification is supported, with intent to be
used in the IMA.
Summary of the changes:
* crypto/Kconfig:
- EC-RDSA is added into Public-key cryptography section.
* crypto/Makefile:
- ecrdsa objects are added.
* crypto/asymmetric_keys/x509_cert_parser.c:
- Recognize EC-RDSA and Streebog OIDs.
* include/linux/oid_registry.h:
- EC-RDSA OIDs are added to the enum. Also, a two currently not
implemented curve OIDs are added for possible extension later (to
not change numbering and grouping).
* crypto/ecc.c:
- Kenneth MacKay copyright date is updated to 2014, because
vli_mmod_slow, ecc_point_add, ecc_point_mult_shamir are based on his
code from micro-ecc.
- Functions needed for ecrdsa are EXPORT_SYMBOL'ed.
- New functions:
vli_is_negative - helper to determine sign of vli;
vli_from_be64 - unpack big-endian array into vli (used for
a signature);
vli_from_le64 - unpack little-endian array into vli (used for
a public key);
vli_uadd, vli_usub - add/sub u64 value to/from vli (used for
increment/decrement);
mul_64_64 - optimized to use __int128 where appropriate, this speeds
up point multiplication (and as a consequence signature
verification) by the factor of 1.5-2;
vli_umult - multiply vli by a small value (speeds up point
multiplication by another factor of 1.5-2, depending on vli sizes);
vli_mmod_special - module reduction for some form of Pseudo-Mersenne
primes (used for the curves A);
vli_mmod_special2 - module reduction for another form of
Pseudo-Mersenne primes (used for the curves B);
vli_mmod_barrett - module reduction using pre-computed value (used
for the curve C);
vli_mmod_slow - more general module reduction which is much slower
(used when the modulus is subgroup order);
vli_mod_mult_slow - modular multiplication;
ecc_point_add - add two points;
ecc_point_mult_shamir - add two points multiplied by scalars in one
combined multiplication (this gives speed up by another factor 2 in
compare to two separate multiplications).
ecc_is_pubkey_valid_partial - additional samity check is added.
- Updated vli_mmod_fast with non-strict heuristic to call optimal
module reduction function depending on the prime value;
- All computations for the previously defined (two NIST) curves should
not unaffected.
* crypto/ecc.h:
- Newly exported functions are documented.
* crypto/ecrdsa_defs.h
- Five curves are defined.
* crypto/ecrdsa.c:
- Signature verification is implemented.
* crypto/ecrdsa_params.asn1, crypto/ecrdsa_pub_key.asn1:
- Templates for BER decoder for EC-RDSA parameters and public key.
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Vitaly Chikunov <vt@altlinux.org>
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
