This patch gives mirror the ability to handle device failures
during normal write operations.
The 'write_callback' function is called when a write completes.
If all the writes failed or succeeded, we report failure or
success respectively. If some of the writes failed, we call
fail_mirror; which increments the error count for the device, notes
the type of error encountered (DM_RAID1_WRITE_ERROR), and
selects a new primary (if necessary). Note that the primary
device can never change while the mirror is not in-sync (IOW,
while recovery is happening.) This means that the scenario
where a failed write changes the primary and gives
recovery_complete a chance to misread the primary never happens.
The fact that the primary can change has necessitated the change
to the default_mirror field. We need to protect against reading
garbage while the primary changes. We then add the bio to a new
list in the mirror set, 'failures'. For every bio in the 'failures'
list, we call a new function, '__bio_mark_nosync', where we mark
the region 'not-in-sync' in the log and properly set the region
state as, RH_NOSYNC. Userspace must also be notified of the
failure. This is done by 'raising an event' (dm_table_event()).
If fail_mirror is called in process context the event can be raised
right away. If in interrupt context, the event is deferred to the
kmirrord thread - which raises the event if 'event_waiting' is set.
Backwards compatibility is maintained by ignoring errors if
the DM_FEATURES_HANDLE_ERRORS flag is not present.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Store a pointer to the owning mirror_set structure within each mirror
structure for a subsequent patch to use.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
There are now two phases to a suspend in device-mapper -
presuspend and postsuspend. This patch removes the
single 'suspend' in the logging API and replaces it with
'presuspend' and 'postsuspend' functions to align it
better with core device-mapper.
A subsequent patch will make use of 'presuspend'.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Replacing n & (n - 1) for power of 2 check by is_power_of_2(n)
Signed-off-by: vignesh babu <vignesh.babu@wipro.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
As bi_end_io is only called once when the reqeust is complete,
the 'size' argument is now redundant. Remove it.
Now there is no need for bio_endio to subtract the size completed
from bi_size. So don't do that either.
While we are at it, change bi_end_io to return void.
Signed-off-by: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Transform some calls to kmalloc/memset to a single kzalloc (or kcalloc).
Here is a short excerpt of the semantic patch performing
this transformation:
@@
type T2;
expression x;
identifier f,fld;
expression E;
expression E1,E2;
expression e1,e2,e3,y;
statement S;
@@
x =
- kmalloc
+ kzalloc
(E1,E2)
... when != \(x->fld=E;\|y=f(...,x,...);\|f(...,x,...);\|x=E;\|while(...) S\|for(e1;e2;e3) S\)
- memset((T2)x,0,E1);
@@
expression E1,E2,E3;
@@
- kzalloc(E1 * E2,E3)
+ kcalloc(E1,E2,E3)
[akpm@linux-foundation.org: get kcalloc args the right way around]
Signed-off-by: Yoann Padioleau <padator@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
Acked-by: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
Acked-by: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
Acked-by: Roland Dreier <rolandd@cisco.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Acked-by: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@mail.ru>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Acked-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Acked-by: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Acked-by: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: "Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@pol.net>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
When writing to a mirror, the log must be updated first. Failure
to update the log could result in the log not properly reflecting
the state of the mirror if the machine should crash.
We change the return type of the rh_flush function to give us
the ability to check if a log write was successful. If the
log write was unsuccessful, we fail the writes to avoid the
case where the log does not properly reflect the state of the
mirror.
A follow-up patch - which is dependent on the ability to
requeue I/O's to core device-mapper - will requeue the I/O's
for retry (allowing the mirror to be reconfigured.)
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Device-mapper mirroring currently takes a best effort approach to
recovery - failures during mirror synchronization are completely ignored.
This means that regions are marked 'in-sync' and 'clean' and removed
from the hash list. Future reads and writes that query the region
will incorrectly interpret the region as in-sync.
This patch handles failures during the recovery process. If a failure
occurs, the region is marked as 'not-in-sync' (aka RH_NOSYNC) and added
to a new list 'failed_recovered_regions'.
Regions on the 'failed_recovered_regions' list are not marked as 'clean'
upon removal from the list. Furthermore, if the DM_RAID1_HANDLE_ERRORS
flag is set, the region is marked as 'not-in-sync'. This action prevents
any future read-balancing from choosing an invalid device because of the
'not-in-sync' status.
If "handle_errors" is not specified when creating a mirror (leaving the
DM_RAID1_HANDLE_ERRORS flag unset), failures will be ignored exactly as they
would be without this patch. This is to preserve backwards compatibility with
user-space tools, such as 'pvmove'. However, since future read-balancing
policies will rely on the correct sync status of a region, a user must choose
"handle_errors" when using read-balancing.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
A clear_region function is permitted to block (in practice, rare) but gets
called in rh_update_states() with a spinlock held.
The bits being marked and cleared by the above functions are used
to update the on-disk log, but are never read directly. We can
perform these operations outside the spinlock since the
bits are only changed within one thread viz.
- mark_region in rh_inc()
- clear_region in rh_update_states().
So, we grab the clean_regions list items via list_splice() within the
spinlock and defer clear_region() until we iterate over the list for
deletion - similar to how the recovered_regions list is already handled.
We then move the flush() call down to ensure it encapsulates the changes
which are done by the later calls to clear_region().
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Fix mirror status line broken in dm-log-report-fault-status.patch:
- space missing between two words
- placeholder ("0") required for compatibility with a subsequent patch
- incorrect offset parameter
Cc: stable@kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Remove explicit module name from messages as the macro now includes it
automatically.
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
The call to rh_in_sync() in do_reads() should be allowed to block. It is in
the mirror worker thread which already permits blocking operations. This will
be needed to support clustered mirroring which will perform network
operations.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
With the code as it is, it is possible for oustanding clear region requests
never to get flushed when a mirror is deactivated or suspended. This means
there will always be some resync work required when a mirror is activated,
even though it may very well be in-sync.
Always requesting the flush doesn't hurt us. This is because the log tracks
whether any changes occurred and, if not, no flush is performed.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
This patch ports dm-raid1.c to the new dm-io interface.
Signed-off-by: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
This patch adds the ability to specify desired features in the mirror
constructor/mapping table.
The first feature of interest is "handle_errors". Currently, mirroring will
ignore any I/O errors from the devices. Subsequent patches will check for
this flag and handle the errors. If flag/feature is not present, mirror will
do nothing - maintaining backwards compatibility.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan E Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
This patch reports the status of the log device so that userspace can detect
the error and take appropriate action.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan E Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
This patch replaces the single instance of kmirrord by one instance per mirror
set. This change is required to avoid a deadlock in kmirrord when the
persistent dirty log of a mirror itself resides on a mirror. The single
instance of kmirrord then issues a sync write to the dirty log in write_bits
which gets deferred to kmirrord itself later in the call chain. But kmirrord
never does the deferred work because it is still waiting for the sync
write_bits.
_mirror_sets is removed as it no longer needed, and we always flush the
workqueue before destroying it to ensure all work is complete before
destroying it.
Signed-off-by: Holger Smolinski <smolinski@de.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
The complete_resync_work function only provides the ability to change an
out-of-sync region to in-sync. This patch enhances the function to allow us
to change the status from in-sync to out-of-sync as well, something that is
needed when a mirror write to one of the devices or an initial resync on a
given region fails.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan E Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Update existing targets to use the new symbols for return values from target
map and end_io functions.
There is no effect on behaviour.
Test results:
Done build test without errors.
Signed-off-by: Kiyoshi Ueda <k-ueda@ct.jp.nec.com>
Signed-off-by: Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
All device-mapper targets must complete outstanding I/O before suspending.
The mirror target generates I/O in its recovery phase and fails to wait for
it. It needs to be tracked so we can ensure that it has completed before we
suspend.
[akpm@osdl.org: cleanup]
Signed-off-by: Jonathan E Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Remove trailing space from 'dmsetup table' output.
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
On an nForce4-equipped machine with two SATA disk in raid1 setup using dmraid,
we experienced frequent deadlock of the system under high i/o load. 'cat
/dev/zero > ~/zero' was the most reliable way to reproduce them: Randomly
after a few GB, 'cp' would be left in 'D' state along with kjournald and
kmirrord. The functions cp and kjournald were blocked in did vary, but
kmirrord's wchan always pointed to 'mempool_alloc()'. We've seen this pattern
on 2.6.15 and 2.6.17 kernels. http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/4/20/142 indicates
that this problem has been around even before.
So much for the facts, here's my interpretation: mempool_alloc() first tries
to atomically allocate the requested memory, or falls back to hand out
preallocated chunks from the mempool. If both fail, it puts the calling
process (kmirrord in this case) on a private waitqueue until somebody refills
the pool. Where the only 'somebody' is kmirrord itself, so we have a
deadlock.
I worked around this problem by falling back to a (blocking) kmalloc when
before kmirrord would have ended up on the waitqueue. This defeats part of
the benefits of using the mempool, but at least keeps the system running. And
it could be done with a two-line change. Note that mempool_alloc() clears the
GFP_NOIO flag internally, and only uses it to decide whether to wait or return
an error if immediate allocation fails, so the attached patch doesn't change
behaviour in the non-deadlocking case. Path is against current git
(2.6.18-rc4), but should apply to earlier versions as well. I've tested on
2.6.15, where this patch makes the difference between random lockup and a
stable system.
Signed-off-by: Daniel Kobras <kobras@linux.de>
Acked-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: <stable@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Tidy device-mapper error messages to include context information
automatically.
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
kcopyd should accumulate errors - otherwise I/O failures may be ignored
unintentionally.
And invert 'success' (used in a future patch), using a more intuitive
!(read_err || write_err).
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Brassow <jbrassow@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
On-disk logs for dm-mirror devices are currently hard-coded to use 512 byte
hard-sector-sizes. This patch fixes dm-log so it will work with devices with
non-512-byte hard-sector-sizes.
To maintain full compatibility, instead of moving the clean-bits bitset to a
bitset, and enlarges the disk-header buffer to encompass both the header and
the bitset. The I/O routines for the bitset are removed, and the I/O routines
for the disk-header now also read/write the bitset.
Signed-off-by: Kevin Corry <kevcorry@us.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
The device-mapper core does not perform any remapping of bios before passing
them to the targets. If a particular mapping begins part-way into a device,
targets obtain the sector relative to the start of the mapping by subtracting
ti->begin.
The dm-raid1 target didn't do this everywhere: this patch fixes it, taking
care to subtract ti->begin exactly once for each bio.
[akpm: too late for 2.6.17 - suitable for 2.6.17.x after it has settled]
Signed-off-by: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: <stable@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
This patch converts the combination of list_del(A) and list_add(A, B) to
list_move(A, B) under drivers/.
Acked-by: Corey Minyard <minyard@mvista.com>
Cc: Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
Acked-by: Roland Dreier <rolandd@cisco.com>
Cc: Alasdair Kergon <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Cc: Gerd Knorr <kraxel@bytesex.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Frank Pavlic <fpavlic@de.ibm.com>
Acked-by: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Andrew Vasquez <linux-driver@qlogic.com>
Cc: Mikael Starvik <starvik@axis.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>
Signed-off-by: Akinobu Mita <mita@miraclelinux.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
We don't know what type sector_t has. Sometimes it's unsigned long, sometimes
it's unsigned long long. For example on ppc64 it's unsigned long with
CONFIG_LBD=n and on x86_64 it's unsigned long long with CONFIG_LBD=n.
The way to handle all of this is to always use unsigned long long and to
always typecast the sector_t when printing it.
Acked-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
dm-mirror has potential data corruption problem: while on-disk log shows
that all disk contents are in-sync, actual contents of the disks are not
synchronized. This problem occurs if initial recovery (synching) is
interrupted and resumed.
Attached patch fixes this problem.
Background:
rh_dec() changes the region state from RH_NOSYNC (out-of-sync) to RH_CLEAN
(in-sync), which results in the corresponding bit of clean_bits being set.
This is harmful if on-disk log is used and the map is removed/suspended
before the initial sync is completed. The clean_bits is written down to
the on-disk log at the map removal, and, upon resume, it's read and copied
to sync_bits. Since the recovery process refers to the sync_bits to find a
region to be recovered, the region whose state was changed from RH_NOSYNC
to RH_CLEAN is no longer recovered.
If you haven't applied dm-raid1-read-balancing.patch proposed in dm-devel
sometimes ago, the contents of the mirrored disk just corrupt silently. If
you have, balanced read may get bogus data from out-of-sync disks.
The patch keeps RH_NOSYNC state unchanged. It will be changed to
RH_RECOVERING when recovery starts and get reclaimed when the recovery
completes. So it doesn't leak the region hash entry.
Description:
Keep RH_NOSYNC state unchanged when I/O on the region completes.
rh_dec() changes the region state from RH_NOSYNC (out-of-sync) to RH_CLEAN
(in-sync), which results in the corresponding bit of clean_bits being set.
This is harmful if on-disk log is used and the map is removed/suspended
before the initial sync is completed. The clean_bits is written down to
the on-disk log at the map removal, and, upon resume, it's read and copied
to sync_bits. Since the recovery process refers to the sync_bits to find a
region to be recovered, the region whose state was changed from RH_NOSYNC
to RH_CLEAN is no longer recovered.
If you haven't applied dm-raid1-read-balancing.patch proposed in dm-devel
sometimes ago, the contents of the mirrored disk just corrupt silently. If
you have, balanced read may get bogus data from out-of-sync disks.
The RH_NOSYNC region will be changed to RH_RECOVERING when recovery starts
on the region and get reclaimed when the recovery completes. So it doesn't
leak the region hash entry.
Alasdair said:
I've analysed the relevant part of the state machine and I believe that
the patch is correct.
(Further work on this code is still needed - this patch has the
side-effect of holding onto memory unnecessarily for long periods of time
under certain workloads - but better that than corrupting data.)
Signed-off-by: Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>
Acked-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
This patch changes several mempool users, all of which are basically just
wrappers around kmalloc(), to use the common mempool_kmalloc/kfree, rather
than their own wrapper function, removing a bunch of duplicated code.
Signed-off-by: Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
This patch introduces a new field to the mirror_set (default_mirror) to store
the default mirror.
(A subsequent patch will allow us to change the default mirror in the event of
a failure.)
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
The spinlock region_lock is held while calling mark_region which can sleep.
Drop the spinlock before calling that function.
A region's state and inclusion in the clean list are altered by rh_inc and
rh_dec. The state variable is set to RH_CLEAN in rh_dec, but only if
'pending' is zero. It is set to RH_DIRTY in rh_inc, but not if it is already
so. The changes to 'pending', the state, and the region's inclusion in the
clean list need to be atomicly.
Signed-off-by: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
- added typedef unsigned int __nocast gfp_t;
- replaced __nocast uses for gfp flags with gfp_t - it gives exactly
the same warnings as far as sparse is concerned, doesn't change
generated code (from gcc point of view we replaced unsigned int with
typedef) and documents what's going on far better.
Signed-off-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Fix another bug in dm-raid1.c that the dirty region may stay in or be moved
to clean list and freed while in use.
It happens as follows:
CPU0 CPU1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rh_dec()
if (atomic_dec_and_test(pending))
<the region is still marked dirty>
rh_inc()
if the region is clean
mark the region dirty
and remove from clean list
mark the region clean
and move to clean list
atomic_inc(pending)
At this stage, the region is in clean list and will be mistakenly reclaimed
by rh_update_states() later.
Signed-off-by: Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
This code was never designed to handle more than one instance of do_work()
running at once.
Signed-Off-By: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Set the target's split_io field when building a dm-mirror device so
incoming bios won't span the mirror's internal regions. Without this,
regions can be accessed while not holding correct locks and data corruption
is possible.
Reported-By: "Zhao Qian" <zhaoqian@aaastor.com>
From: Kevin Corry <kevcorry@us.ibm.com>
Signed-Off-By: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Initial git repository build. I'm not bothering with the full history,
even though we have it. We can create a separate "historical" git
archive of that later if we want to, and in the meantime it's about
3.2GB when imported into git - space that would just make the early
git days unnecessarily complicated, when we don't have a lot of good
infrastructure for it.
Let it rip!