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Frequently Asked Questions about udev
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Q: What's this udev thing, and what is it trying to do?
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A: Read the OLS 2003 paper about udev, available in the docs/ directory,
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and at:
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<http://www.kroah.com/linux/talks/ols_2003_udev_paper/Reprint-Kroah-Hartman-OLS2003.pdf>
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There is also a udev presentation given at OLS 2003 available at:
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<http://www.kroah.com/linux/talks/ols_2003_udev_talk/>
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Q: How is udev related to devfs?
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A: udev works entirely in userspace, using hotplug events the kernel sends
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whenever a device is added or removed from the kernel. Details about
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the devices are exported by the kernel to the sysfs filesystem at /sys
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All device naming policy permission control and event handling is done in
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userspace. devfs is operated from within the kernel.
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Q: Why was devfs removed if udev can't do everthing devfs did?
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A: To quote Al Viro (Linux VFS kernel maintainer):
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- it was determined that the same thing could be done in userspace
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- devfs had been shoved into the tree in hope that its quality will
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catch up
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- devfs was found to have fixable and unfixable bugs
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- the former had stayed around for many months with maintainer
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claiming that everything works fine
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- the latter had stayed, period.
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- the devfs maintainer/author disappeared and stopped maintaining
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the code.
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Q: But udev will not automatically load a driver if a /dev node is opened
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when it is not present like devfs will do.
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A: Right, but Linux is supposed to load a module when a device is discovered
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not to load a module when it's accessed.
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Q: Oh come on, pretty please. It can't be that hard to do.
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A: Such a functionality isn't needed on a properly configured system. All
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devices present on the system should generate hotplug events, loading
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the appropriate driver, and udev will notice and create the
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appropriate device node. If you don't want to keep all drivers for your
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hardware in memory, then use something else to manage your modules
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(scripts, modules.conf, etc.) This is not a task for udev.
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Q: But I love that feature of devfs, please?
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A: The devfs approach caused a lot of spurious modprobe attempts as
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programs probed to see if devices were present or not. Every probe
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attempt created a process to run modprobe, almost all of which were
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spurious.
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Q: I really like the devfs naming scheme, will udev do that?
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A: Yes, udev can create /dev nodes using the devfs naming policy. But you
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will need a custom configuration and scripts that enumerate your devices
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sequentially while events run in parallel, without a predictable order.
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The devfs scheme is not recommended or supported because it is a stupid
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idea to simply enumerate devices in a world where devices can come and go
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at any time. These numbers give you nothing but problems, and are not
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useful to identify a device. Have a look at the persistent rules for
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examples how to create persistent device names in userspace without any
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device enumeration depending on the device probing order.
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Q: What kinds of devices does udev create nodes for?
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A: All devices that are shown in the kernel's sysfs tree will work with udev.
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Q: Will udev remove the limit on the number of anonymous devices?
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A: udev is entirely in userspace. If the kernel supports a greater number
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of anonymous devices, udev will support it.
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Q: Does udev support symlinks?
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A: Yes, multiple symlinks per device node are supported.
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Q: How will udev handle the /dev filesystem?
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A: /dev is recomended to be a tmpfs filesystem that is recreated on every reboot.
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Although, udev does not care what kind of filesystem it runs on.
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Q: How will udev handle devices found before init runs?
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A: udev can be placed in initramfs and run for every device that is found.
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udev can also populate an initial /dev directory from the content of /sys
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after the real root is mounted.
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Q: Can I use udev to automount a USB device when I connect it?
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A: Technically, yes, but udev is not intended for this. All major distributions
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use HAL (http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fhal) for this, which also
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watches devices with removable media and integrates the Desktop environment.
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Alternatively, it is easy to add the following to fstab:
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/dev/disk/by-label/PENDRIVE /media/PENDRIVE vfat user,noauto 0 0
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This means that users can access the device with:
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$mount /media/PENDRIVE
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and doen't have to be root, but will get full permissions on the device.
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Using the persistent disk links (label, uuid) will always catch the
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same device regardless of the actual kernel name.
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Q: Are there any security issues that I should be aware of?
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A: When using dynamic device numbers, a given pair of major/minor numbers may
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point to different hardware over time. If a user has permission to access a
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specific device node directly and is able to create hard links to this node,
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he or she can do so to create a copy of the device node. When the device is
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unplugged and udev removes the device node, the user's copy remains.
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If the device node is later recreated with different permissions the hard
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link can still be used to access the device using the old permissions.
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(The same problem exists when using PAM to change permissions on login.)
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The simplest solution is to prevent the creation of hard links by putting
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/dev on a separate filesystem like tmpfs.
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Q: I have other questions about udev, where do I ask them?
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A: The linux-hotplug-devel mailing list is the proper place for it. The
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address for it is:
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linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
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Information on joining can be found at:
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http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html
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